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		<title>By: Jame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so in agreement here.  Heaven forbid you update the picklist.  You just created 4 years worth of work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so in agreement here.  Heaven forbid you update the picklist.  You just created 4 years worth of work!</p>
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		<title>By: werewolf</title>
		<link>http://gokubi.com/archives/are-you-really-going-to-make-we-write-this/comment-page-1#comment-163175</link>
		<dc:creator>werewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever considered doing this in an Apex trigger instead?  At least in Apex you can just access the value directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever considered doing this in an Apex trigger instead?  At least in Apex you can just access the value directly.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this fully.  It disgusts me to have to replicate picklist values word for word in another location to perform this function.  This is simply a maintenance nightmare.  People never remember to update the formula and there are always inconsistencies.  TEXT() needs to work for more than just validation rules and workflows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this fully.  It disgusts me to have to replicate picklist values word for word in another location to perform this function.  This is simply a maintenance nightmare.  People never remember to update the formula and there are always inconsistencies.  TEXT() needs to work for more than just validation rules and workflows.</p>
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		<title>By: gokubi.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kudos where kudos are due</title>
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		<dc:creator>gokubi.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kudos where kudos are due</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://gokubi.com/archives/are-you-really-going-to-make-we-write-this/comment-page-1#comment-158506</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, thoroughly rhetorical! ;) Mostly I was just in a bad mood...

I know it&#039;s coming, since we saw it on validation rules. Thanks for continuing to work on it--the validation rule implementation is awesome.

The use case is interesting. The client wants to parse addresses for use in door-to-door activities. Do create effective walk-lists, the street number, name, and direction all need to be parsed out. So I&#039;m giving them some parsed address fields that I&#039;m then combining back into the OtherAddress fields.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, thoroughly rhetorical! <img src='http://gokubi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Mostly I was just in a bad mood&#8230;</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s coming, since we saw it on validation rules. Thanks for continuing to work on it&#8211;the validation rule implementation is awesome.</p>
<p>The use case is interesting. The client wants to parse addresses for use in door-to-door activities. Do create effective walk-lists, the street number, name, and direction all need to be parsed out. So I&#8217;m giving them some parsed address fields that I&#8217;m then combining back into the OtherAddress fields.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Scotton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Scotton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve, I am guessing that this is a rhetorical question, but if you are interested in the backstory here, Eric B does a good job explaining it his 05-30-2008 comment in the Idea post.  Your use case is pretty interesting - selecting addresses from picklists is not something I&#039;ve seen other customers do.  Is the goal speed of data entry or is it data quality?  If it is data quality, this might be a good use of VLOOKUP() in a validation rule to validation the parts of the address, rather than deconstructing and reconstructing the standard address fields.

As to Michael&#039;s point about the Idea not being classified as “Ideas Under Consideration”, that is just an oversight on my part, since we have already delivered one aspect of that Idea (picklists in validation rules), and hence it is definitely under consideration.  I just updated it.  My team is actively working on adding better picklist support in Formula Fields, which is the pain point that is highlighted here (and that I myself have felt).  I am looking forward to the day I can mark that Idea as &quot;delivered&quot;.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve, I am guessing that this is a rhetorical question, but if you are interested in the backstory here, Eric B does a good job explaining it his 05-30-2008 comment in the Idea post.  Your use case is pretty interesting &#8211; selecting addresses from picklists is not something I&#8217;ve seen other customers do.  Is the goal speed of data entry or is it data quality?  If it is data quality, this might be a good use of VLOOKUP() in a validation rule to validation the parts of the address, rather than deconstructing and reconstructing the standard address fields.</p>
<p>As to Michael&#8217;s point about the Idea not being classified as “Ideas Under Consideration”, that is just an oversight on my part, since we have already delivered one aspect of that Idea (picklists in validation rules), and hence it is definitely under consideration.  I just updated it.  My team is actively working on adding better picklist support in Formula Fields, which is the pain point that is highlighted here (and that I myself have felt).  I am looking forward to the day I can mark that Idea as &#8220;delivered&#8221;.  <img src='http://gokubi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree. This has annoyed me for a long time. I voted on the idea referenced by Peter Martin a while ago. With 7500+ votes, you&#039;d think that this would be on SFC&#039;s &quot;Ideas Under Consideration&quot; list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree. This has annoyed me for a long time. I voted on the idea referenced by Peter Martin a while ago. With 7500+ votes, you&#8217;d think that this would be on SFC&#8217;s &#8220;Ideas Under Consideration&#8221; list.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Steve. This has pi$$ed me off to no end over the last year. It&#039;s funny how once you run into this use case (concatenating picklist values in a formula for example) it seems to come up over and over again. I can&#039;t believe they have not solved this yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Steve. This has pi$$ed me off to no end over the last year. It&#8217;s funny how once you run into this use case (concatenating picklist values in a formula for example) it seems to come up over and over again. I can&#8217;t believe they have not solved this yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The client wants to do data entry via a picklist and then concatenate the picklists into a full mailing address. I use workflow to put this concatenated address into the standard Address fields on Contact.

I could use VF, but then would have to override the Edit screen and that is not worth it maintenance-wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The client wants to do data entry via a picklist and then concatenate the picklists into a full mailing address. I use workflow to put this concatenated address into the standard Address fields on Contact.</p>
<p>I could use VF, but then would have to override the Edit screen and that is not worth it maintenance-wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Bcolmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bcolmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not agree more emphatically.</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent idea - i voted on this on the idea exchange - maybe other can vote on it as well to get it released as soon as possible

http://ideas.salesforce.com/article/show/43022/The_ability_to_use_a_picklist_value_in_a_formula_field_without_ISPICKVAL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent idea &#8211; i voted on this on the idea exchange &#8211; maybe other can vote on it as well to get it released as soon as possible</p>
<p><a href="http://ideas.salesforce.com/article/show/43022/The_ability_to_use_a_picklist_value_in_a_formula_field_without_ISPICKVAL" rel="nofollow">http://ideas.salesforce.com/article/show/43022/The_ability_to_use_a_picklist_value_in_a_formula_field_without_ISPICKVAL</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ehren Foss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ehren Foss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious what client feature forced you to do this - I&#039;ve had to do similarly bad things with code in SalesForce; but in this case they might have intentionally tried to force you to use the value, not the label in your code as it is less likely to change.  In VisualForce you could use outputField to show the label instead of the Value, but I&#039;m sure for some reason you had to access the label in Apex itself (which is weird!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious what client feature forced you to do this &#8211; I&#8217;ve had to do similarly bad things with code in SalesForce; but in this case they might have intentionally tried to force you to use the value, not the label in your code as it is less likely to change.  In VisualForce you could use outputField to show the label instead of the Value, but I&#8217;m sure for some reason you had to access the label in Apex itself (which is weird!).</p>
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